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Chastity-tease-denial-milking


posted by: "John Doh" j0hnnyd0h at yahoo
posted on: Thu, 24 May 2007 08:54:47 -0700 (PDT)


Greetings All,

Re: Male Chastity Devices

While we're on this topic.... I'd love to hear opinions on a
couple of sub-topics (accidental pun, really!). I know some of
this has been touched on in the archives, but I'm hoping for
fresh clarity (and to spark more conversation, it's been quiet
here lately).

First:-

My wife has recently (we're both newbies here) discovered that
she enjoys playing tease/denial games. And I'm at that delicate
point of being really excited that she's found a kink she
enjoys, but a little nervous of what the future holds... ;-)

So far I've really enjoyed the games (we've only played this a
couple of times now) where she has teased me repeatedly to the
point of orgasm only to stop at the edge... either with her
hands, mouth, or during intercourse, then said I'd have to wait
until tomorrow (or the next day) to finish...

So far the longest she has had me wait is a few days (though she
has teased me verbally about seeing how long she can have me
go). This game keeps me very focused on her (can't concentrate
at work even) and very attentive of her needs (both physical and
emotional), but only so long as the 'game' continues... out-
right neglect leads to a frustration level that has more
negative effects..

(btw, we read up on this in one of the chapters in Christine's
program and didn't really "get it" until we tried it... another
point for Christine!)

From what we've been reading (here and elsewhere) prolonged
denial may not be in the best interest of the health of the male
(physical or emotional)... I understand that some believe
milking may be a way to "flush the prostate" and avoid toxin
issues (I'm certainly interested in trying this, just because),
but I'm also concerned about negative effects of the stress and
loss of sleep...

So, on the milking; does the male maintain that same level of
interest after a milking? Is it only the release of orgasm that
changes the attitude?

On the stress and lack of sleep, are there opinions/examples on
the health effects?

Second, and more on the original topic...

My wife will be leaving me alone for a month or so this summer
and she joked about having me not cum until she returned, I
joked that she may have to resort to a chastity device... which
led to her asking for pictures and more information... and now
we're both getting a little more curious/excited.

I'm a research nut so I've been going over the specs for the
various kinds and we are (as most people seem to be) leaning
toward the products put out by the CB-2000 company.

So, comparing the CB-3000 and "The Curve", and keeping in mind
that I have no plans to try and get out of it without permission
(it is all game for us); what would be the best option be in
terms of heightening that frustration level without crossing
into real suffering?

From what I understand the Curve is meant for either really hung
guys (I'm average I think) or to allow for partial erection
without the ability to touch... Whereas the CB3000 is to prevent
any erection. Having never experienced either of these (and not
wanting to pony up the cash for both just to find out for
myself), which would produce the most beneficial effects of
short term chastity?

btw, IF we decide to play this game while she's away I think the
plan will be to allow me out for self release periodically...
perhaps controlled via phone... though the call rates from here
to there are pretty high... I may have to work fast.. ;-)

Johnny

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Replies

Hmmm... some issues that have recently come up for my sub and I
during our last play-weekend.

He was in his CB3000 and during a period when he was locked up
in his cage he relaxed to a point that he unintentionally
slipped out of the CB. I know it was unintentional as I was
watching him at that point.

Also personally I would not keep my sub in a chastity device
without training for such an extended period of time. But others
may disagree.

I would leave instructions and expect them to be followed.

Also for the phone costs:- If you both have access to computers,
try Skype it is free computer to computer. My sub and I use it a
lot when he travels for work


Thank you for your reply Miss E. It's been mighty quiet on this
thread (perhaps the long weekend, perhaps I've picked a topic
that's been too thoroughly hashed lately) and I appreciated your
comments.

In my shopping around I did find a site that might address your
slippage problem (no personal experience here though). A small
retailer of CB3000 products, they also seem to have developed a
few accessories that look intriguing. The KSD-G2 is supposed to
reduce the accidental (and intentional) pull-outs.

(a quick Google on this will take you there if interested, I
don't feel right plugging URLs for commercial sites)

I enjoyed browsing their site as it seems to be very focused on
loving marriage applications and is full of tips and
suggestions. Though there is one link that did seem to go off on
a rather strong religious note... Just shows, in my mind, how
diverse a group of people we are.

johnny



john doh wrote:

>but I'm also concerned about negative effects of the stress
>and loss of sleep...

There's always a price to pay. Be aware you may not like the
additional cost of comfort.

There's a prostate massage tool called an Aneros which can be
found on the internet. Massage with this item will milk the
prostate easily. Many men find it a humiliating experience to be
relieved in such a way - something which troubles me not at all.

I have also used another of Christine's methods to my
satisfaction, but not entirely to my husband's. I like
stimulating him to the edge with my hand until he's on the verge
of spurting at which point I simply let go of him. Without
friction he will be unable to spurt but sort of dribbles the
cum. The result is that he's aware of his need for sex and of
his inability to have it.

He is able to sleep although he often reports having "weird
dreams".

With regard to your wife leaving you in chastity for the summer
I wouldn't worry too much as long as you are able to clean
yourself while locked. There are plenty of men here who can
offer you practical suggestions on hygiene so it shouldn't be
too much of a problem.

I've been told by several medical doctors that keeping you
locked in chastity is not likely to keep your body from
releasing on its own. You will simply go back to having
nocturnal emissions just like when you went through puberty.

In my opinion there are enough opposing medical opinions on this
to warrant the purchase and use of the Aneros. I'm sure your
wife may find pleasure in the knowledge that you are having to
stimulate your orgasms via your rectum while she's away. It may
inspire her to shop next for a strap on and harness.

Your research probably won't help you much on that shopping
spree. It's a matter of the lady's comfort. When she gets to the
point where she wants the information we'll be here.


Miss E wrote:

>He was in his CB3000 and during a period when he was locked up
>in his cage he relaxed to a point that he unintentionally
>slipped out of the CB. I know it was unintentional as I was
>watching him at that point


That was the experience my husband had with his CB2000 as well.
I never considered it to be more than a toy, a less expensive
option which might be used to see if long term chastity was
desired.

Madam

Johnny Wrote:

>I'm at that delicate point of being really excited that she's
>found a kink she enjoys, but a little nervous of what the
>future holds..


Don't let your fear overcome your desire and back away now or
she may not want to explore other kinks further. It is important
that you show her how much you love it at this point.


>From what I understand the Curve is meant for either really
>hung guys (I'm average I think) or to allow for partial
>erection without the ability to touch... Whereas the CB3000 is
>to prevent any erection. Having never experienced either of
>these (and not wanting to pony up the cash for both just to
>find out for myself), which would produce the most beneficial
>effects of short term chastity?


I think that the 3000 will work well for the 'average' guy. It
does not however prevent erections, I've seen many instances of
a man hard as a rock and spilling out the confines of the cage.
It's quite fun!


Miss E Wrote:

>He was in his CB3000 and during a period when he was locked up
>in his cage he relaxed to a point that he unintentionally
>slipped out of the CB. I know it was unintentional as I was
>watching him at that point.


I have experienced this as well but with slightly different
cause and effect. In my case the fellow was wearing tight jeans
and the 3000 got somehow caught on them. While he was carrying
something the device twisted and a single testicle pulled
through the opening between the ring and the cage. It was
extremely painful, and remained extremely painful for quite a
while as the keys were intentionally elsewhere and needed to be
fetched. The device was properly fitted and attached, the forces
applied to it while he was doing the physical labor were just
too much.

I think Johnny's wife's fantasy of a month is chastity while she
is away is a great one, and certainly worth exploring. I imagine
that while he would be mighty frustrated Johnny would love it as
well. I don't know that the CB line of products is appropriate
for such long term play though. A tube made by Ms. Lori would be
more comfortable, effective, and not risk the slips mentioned
here.

Milliscent

http://www.milliscent.com

http://milliscent.blogspot.com

johnny wrote:

>a site that might address your slippage problem (no personal
>experience here though). A small retailer of CB3000 products,
>they also seem to have developed a few accessories that look
>intriguing. The KSD-G2 is supposed to reduce the accidental
>(and intentional) pull-outs.


I purchased the KSD-G2. The retailer/manufacturer delivered
great service and they were easy to deal with.

I think that as advertised, the attachment would reduce pull
outs, but even properly fitted there are a couple of drawbacks I
noticed.

The device needs to be tight to work. This makes it extremely
difficult to actually get the CB3000 on. Once it is on all works
well, but I personally wondered how safe it was to have
something tightly fitted for long term wear. For that reason, I
have not used it for more than a few hours, and wouldn't
recommend it for long term use.

Milliscent

http://www.milliscent.com

http://milliscent.blogspot.com

my experience has been the cb3000 can be worn for long periods,
(a month is fine). However, i was able to "pull out" which made
the experience something less than i'd feared.

The points of intrigue would help prevent that, but they really
smart, and are very distracting. (Use only for punishment, and
then for the short term).

The logical option is: get your penis pierced and use the bar to
secure the cage, or use another device that utilizes the bar or
ring. (Lori tube etc). The other no-nonsense belts, the
stainless steel ones, are too much, conceptually, for my
Wife/Mistress and me.

One idea i've thought about is using a lockable harness, as
advertised on Extreme Restraints, and somehow affix the CBX000
to it. The wearer would need to be freed to relieve his bowels,
especially with the butt plug in place, but that seems like
great fun, albeit impractical if your Mistress is away for a
month.

Thanks to all who have responded to my post, your
insights/experiences are greatly appreciated by myself and my
wife (yes, she's been following this thread, our first time
posting "together")

I felt quite honored to have received a response from Mistress
Milliscent herself! ;)

My wife is still not sold on the need for a chastity device; she
worries about my discomfort and I have historically had very
good self control when it comes to masturbation, etc... I\We
certainly don't feel I 'need' it.... but think it sounds like
fun to use on occasions.

I would like to share a link to an Essay that we read last night
that she found very interesting. On the topic of orgasm control
for the benefit of the marriage:

http://www.geocities.com/toyboy101/index.html

I think this essay's been around for a while but if you're a
newbie, like myself, looking for a way to introduce your wife to
the benefits of tease/denial/etc.. I think it's a great,
inspirational read.

Thanks again!
johnny

Evening to you all.

I want to follow up on this thread...

http://u4ds.us/2007/07/benefits_of_male_chastity.shtml

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